Brian Gigl and Connor Doak on our goals-based approach to building portfolios. Read the full transcript below.

If you were driving from Milwaukee to Yellowstone National Park, would you start by picking out a car?

Probably not. You’d start with where you’re going, and then you’d figure out the route and what it takes to get there. Only after that would you worry about what’s under the hood.

It’s a simple idea, and comes from Brian Gigl, our Director of Wealth Management. It’s also the clearest way we know to explain the goals-based approach our wealth management team uses to build portfolios. Connor Doak, our Client Portfolio Manager, walks through it with Brian in the video above, and we wanted to put the thinking in writing too.


First, the Destination: Start With Your Goals

When someone comes to us, we don’t open with a conversation about investments. We open with a conversation about goals: what you’re investing for, and why.

“Before we even get to … our investment philosophy, we really have to spend the time to understand what our clients are investing for and why they’re investing.”

— Connor Doak

Maybe it’s a comfortable retirement, a gift to a cause you care about, or stewardship of assets for the next generation. Whatever it is, that’s the destination, and everything else in the process is built around it. Without it, we’d just be guessing.


Then, the Route: Required Return, Risk, and Allocation

Once we understand where you’re headed and why, the next question is how to get there. That starts with the return it would take to reach those goals. From there, we look at how to pursue that return while managing risk thoughtfully. If your goals can be reached with a more modest return, there may be no reason to take on more risk than that.

This is where a portfolio starts to take shape. We think about how to blend equities, bonds, and alternatives. We consider what your liquidity needs look like, meaning how much you may need to access, and when. Those pieces become the building blocks of the portfolio.

This is the route you design before you leave. And like any good road trip, it leaves room for you. Want to stop at the Badlands, or detour down to the Tetons on the way? You can. You don’t need every mile mapped out, just a clear destination and a plan designed to help you get there.


Only Then, the Engine: Choosing the Investments

The investment portfolio is the engine. Once the goals and the route are clear, we choose the underlying investments that will actually power the journey, whether that’s mutual funds, ETFs, separately managed accounts, or individual holdings.

An engine matters, of course. But it matters because of where it’s taking you. A powerful engine with no destination just burns fuel.


Taxes Along the Way: Transitioning an Existing Portfolio

Brian and Connor both came back to taxes in the video, and the topic deserves its own mention.

Taxes aren’t a final step. They run through the whole process. And they matter even more when a new client comes to us with an existing portfolio. Reworking that portfolio without managing the tax impact can quietly cost you. Handling that transition carefully is a key part of what we do here.


Why We Start With Goals

A portfolio is a tool in service of a life you’re trying to build, a mission you want to fund, or a legacy you want to leave.

If you’ve ever wondered what our approach to wealth management looks like in practice, or whether your current portfolio is built around a destination, we’d love to talk it through. Let’s schedule a conversation.

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Full Transcript

Brian: I’m Brian Gigl. I’m the Director of Wealth Management here at Riverwater Partners. Sitting beside me is my partner and colleague, Connor Doak.

Connor: Yep. Thanks, Brian. I’m Connor Doak. I’m the Client Portfolio Manager here at Riverwater. Been here a little over five years with the team, and excited to talk to you today.

Brian: So when a new client or potential client approaches us and wants to work with us, how do you describe our investment philosophy and process to them?

Connor: Before we even get to the element of talking about our investment philosophy, we really have to spend the time to understand what our clients are investing for and why they’re investing, what are their goals primarily, before we can even get into the elements of the how.

Brian: Sure. Okay. So then, you know, after we have that discussion and understand what their goals are and where they’re heading and why they’re heading in that direction, what’s the next layer of… I guess we could call it the how?

Connor: Yeah. After we have that, how we’re going to invest, it really comes down to what type of return do we need to generate so we can actually achieve these goals for our clients. And once we get that return number that we can utilize to kind of optimize their longer-term returns, then we go into, how can we achieve that level of return at the lowest risk?

And that’s gonna be blending our equities with our bonds, with our alternatives, right? Taxes are gonna be a big piece of that as well. And after we have all of those different variables, then we can start to look at the underlying investment vehicles that’ll end up populating the portfolios.

So I think the best way, and I love this analogy that you’ve used before, Brian, is our investment process and our investment philosophy really centers around a map, right? If you’re driving from Milwaukee to Yellowstone National Park, you kind of have an idea of where you want to go. Right? And along the way, we have to design that route, right? That route is gonna be, you know, the goals, the why, the how, right?

But to get there, you need to have an engine, right? And the investment portfolio is gonna be the engine that drives you from Milwaukee to Yellowstone. You could stop at the Badlands if you want, or if you want to go down to the Tetons before you go to Yellowstone, right, hit all the national parks, you can do that. But you have to have the process built along the way so you have an idea of where you’re going and actually have the engine and the car and the investment portfolio to physically get you there.

And that’s when we start talking about blending in the various asset classes, how we’re gonna use alternatives, what their liquidity profile might be. And then from there, once we have kind of the asset allocation building blocks, then we can find the underlying pieces of the investment vehicles that we’re actually gonna use to construct those portfolios.

Brian: And taxes.

Connor: And taxes. And taxes are a huge element, especially when we bring in a new client that already has an existing portfolio. Making sure we’re going through a transition and managing the taxes appropriately is a very key element to what we do here at Riverwater.


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